Redundant Tebow Musings

March 24th, 2012

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After having time to digest what I initially perceived to be a poor attempt at a prank or some type of sick joke, it’s time to analyze the Tebow deal a little bit:

From A Football Perspective:

This move had Tony Sparano written all over it, the man who made the “Wildcat” famous and then infamous has undoubtedly wanted to get his hands on this guy since the day he came into the NFL. Tebow is the quintessential Wildcat quarterback, as he is extremely limited as a passer but is a dangerous runner and has some throwing ability. However, in a year where the Jets looked as though they would forgo the flashy free agent signings the Tannenbaum regime has become synonymous with and build through the draft it is somewhat confusing to see why they would be willing to trade away two draft picks and be willing to pay a backup significant money. The Jets still have an number of needs to address more important than a backup quarterback who has trouble performing the fundamental duties of a quarterback.

Many of the talking heads who support the deal see it as being beneficial with the idea that it will light a fire under Sanchez but by the same token, it will create political issues within the organization. Sanchez’s margin for error has become even more narrow, if he has one bad game fans and teammates alike will be calling for Tebow. Touchdown Jesus also must be under the impression that he has a chance to win the job because he had the option of going to the Jaguars whose quarterback situation is very much up in the air. From an organizational standpoint, they are sending mixed messages to Sanchez, first showing confidence in him by extending his contract and now this.

You will likely see Tebow in some version of the Wildcat, running option type plays and using his legs to create positive yardage. But again, anytime Sanchez comes off the field the question will come up as to Tebow’s role. Peyton Manning allegedly spurned the Jets because of the “circus like atmosphere,” but by signing with the Broncos he inadvertently added a few more rings to said circus. Sure there are some obvious advantages to having Tebow but they are limited as opposed to the potential fallout that his presence could create.

From A Fan’s Perspective:

As with any polarizing figure whether it be in sports or otherwise there will be those who love and those who hate time Tebow. I think that there is and will continue to be a growing dichotomy between Jets fans who support Tebow and those who oppose the move. Obviously the Sanchez believers/apologists are likely outraged by this move on the other hand those who have seemingly lost faith in the Sanchize tend to be Tebow supporters.

From where I’m sitting, it just dumbfounds me that the Jets even considered this as an option there are more blatant needs than polarizing back-up quarterback. Such as right tackle, the position to which most of the Jets offensive woes in 2011 can be attributed to. If this is their alternative solution to solidifying the line, the Jets think tank might want to go back to the drawing board. We saw what can happen when there are blatant weakness in your offensive line (Wayne Hunter), teams will exploit it and it makes executing an offensive game plan exponentially more difficult.

Another thing the Tebow move did was that it overshadowed the Laron Landry signing, which is a low-risk, high-reward proposition that made a lot of sense considering it was an actual need. Now the Jets are short a fourth round draft pick with wholes that still need to be filled. To me this has the makings of a good old fashioned quarterback controversy but there really should be no controversy, if last year showed us anything it’s that Tim Tebow can’t play in a conventional pro-style offense and life outside the AFC West could be a harsh reality for young Mr. Tebow. But then again, what do I know?

107 Responses to Redundant Tebow Musings

Jeff says:

Excellent post.

Upside to acquiring Tebow: too little.

Potential for disaster (splitting the team, destroying Mark Sanchez as the Jets quarterback of the future): too much.
- Ben Nevis says:
  
  +1
  
  Nice post, Daniel. I said similar things on other, previous threads (before Tebow was signed) about the other serious needs this team has, and have not yet been addressed—including a solid RT, a solid cover FS, a bona fide #2 WR, a RB who can block and can catch, a TE who can block and can catch, a solid kicker, a solid punter, as well as O line depth—and how Tebow does not fill any of those needs, but simply adds a second Wildcat option to the solid one we already had (in Kerley), and at quite a cost: $2.5 mil, plus Tebow’s salary, plus a 4th rounder, plus a 6th rounder downgraded to a 7th.
  
  But there’s another aspect of this trade—besides the fact that it might (and probably will) provoke a QB controversy we don’t need–that should be examined: the way in which it will affect our own O’s game-preparation, as well as Mark Sanchez’s development in Sparano’s new system, and not in a good way.
  
  Here, below, is an excerpt from a piece by Joe Caporoso at Turn on the Jets, regarding the ways in which installing an O for Tebow will not only complicate the O for every offensive player, but will also take precious reps away from Sanchez in practice, when he needs them most—trying to learn Sparano’s new system:
  ________________________________________________________
  
  THE OFFENSIVE ISSUES OF TIM TEBOW AS A BACK-UP QB
  
  by Joe Caporoso of turnonthejets
  
  . . .Tebow isn’t a traditional NFL quarterback. We saw what happened last year when he attempted to run a standard, pro-style offense and it wasn’t pretty. He is most effective running an offense tailored to his skill set. . . . Call it the Wildcat. Call it whatever the hell you want, it is a completely different offense than the one Mark Sanchez and the first unit will be running.
  
  Tony Sparano now has the challenge of installing, not one new offense, but two new offenses which the entire starting and backup group will learn. You remember complaints about things being too complicated under Brian Schottenheimer? You now have every lineman, tight end, running back, and wide receiver needing to learn the standard pro-offense Sparano will install for Sanchez and the quarterback as running back offense he will install for Tebow. It will involve completely different blocking schemes, route running, and steps for the running backs to learn.
  
  What this means, is that instead of dedicating all of the practice and meeting room time to teaching Sanchez a new offensive system, large chunks of time will be spent fleshing out an offense the Jets could run if Sanchez is hurt, pulled or taken out for a few series for Tebow to jump start the offense (a scenario that Mike Tannenbaum said could happen on the radio today).
  
  Keep in mind the Jets aren’t stocked with quarterbacking gurus to handle the process of teaching two new quarterbacks, two completely different offensive systems. They have Matt Cavanaugh, a holdover from the Schottenheimer regime who the coaches didn’t want back in the first place. He doesn’t know a thing about Sparano’s normal offense or Sparano’s Wildcat/Option offense, so he will be starting from scratch too.
  
  I am not attempting to rain on the parade of fans who think Tebow can provide positive elements to this team because I believe that he can. However, it would be foolish to ignore the downside to having to dedicate practice/installment time to two offenses. Every advantage you get by making defenses prepare for two schemes, you are losing in preparation time to perfect one offense.
  
  People talk about the jump Eli Manning and Drew Brees made after their third year with hopes that Sanchez could do a similar thing. Whether he was ever going to reach that level or not, the odds just became that much longer. If you played a sport, you know every second of practice time counts and the Jets will losing time to prepare a normal NFL offense. Will it be worth it for what the Wildcat brings? That is the question that will likely determine how long Mike Tanennbaum, Rex Ryan and Tony Sparano have jobs.
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  - Ben Nevis says:
    
    Here’s the link to the piece by Joe Caporoso from which I quote at length above:
    
    http://turnonthejets.com/2012/03/new-york-jets-the-offensive-issues-of-tim-tebow-as-a-backup-qb/
Aran says:

I really don’t get this move. I like the Tanny/Rex combo but for the first time, I feel like this organization is heading in the wrong direction. (we can talk about previous bad moves by the front office before this) We needed that 4th round pick. Look at what the Jets have done in the past with 4th rounders.
As for Sanchez, I think we would have found out about him this year with Tebow behind him or not. The wildcat is 3 yrs ago. We need a RT, OLB, WR, Blocking T/E, Safety,ILB and O-line help.
I don’t claim to know everything about football or the jets but I don’t get it…..
Nick says:

Why the F**K are we still talking about this???

If Sanchez is good this is meaningless, if he is bad Tebow won’t win us a SB so it is meaningless.

Either way this is meaningless. Why are we still talking about it??
- Jamie says:
  
  +10000000
  - Nickballs2000 says:
    
    Haha. I agree 100%. If sanchez is the QB we hoped he could be, then he will step up and take control of this team. If he folds like a scrub, then we arent winning a bowl either way
    - joeyboy79 says:
      
      Right, cut someones legs out and throw them in the ocean and if they drown, they are a failure! What sht! You guys talk tough but have no idea on the realities of what it takes to be an nfl qb without all the distractions and head games. The top qbs like eli have never had to put up with this crap,their team has supported them and given them the pieces they need to succeed! Get real!!!!
    - Dawg1331 says:
      
      by the way this is meaningless
- Blur says:
  
  If you don’t want to talk about it, then why are you reading the article and posting? Personally, I enjoy the insight.
Ducky says:

The “concern” that people will call for Tebow if Sanchez struggles baffles me. At the very least, it completely ignores what happens when Tebow struggles after he replaces Sanchez. I mean, it is not like Tebow completes more passes that Sanchez, or is a better QB. When Tebow struggles wouldn’t the same fans then call for Sanchez? Under the Fragile Sanchize theory, wherein Sanchez’s whole psyche is dependent on the fan reaction, wouldn’t his confidence then be restored and we’d be right back at zero? It also ignores the fact that the media has been killing Sanchez ever since he came into the league.

This is all a tempest in a teapot with “analysts” who don’t watch the Jets or Sanchez stoking “fans” who are just looking to freak out.

By the way, how many of you get nervous when someone new gets hired at your job? Doesn’t it all seem a little overblown that Sanchez is going to lose his mind because Tebow is on the bench?
- spent says:
  
  Oh my God, they hired a new towel and cologne guy! I’m going to lose my f’in mind up in here!
- JetsImpact414 says:
  
  I agree 100%. Let’s say the Broncos didn’t win all those games last year, would the same fans who were clamering for Tebow, chant Kyle Orton’s name? And you’re spot on about how the media has never cut Sanchez any slack. I hope that Sanchez gets fired up by this, and works his a** off to prove evreybody wrong!
spent says:

What scares me a little is that Tebow isn’t going to be out there griding out yards like a running back. Sparano is going to have a handful of gimmicky, trick plays for him that will confuse the heck out of the opposing defense. These plays have the potential for instant scores, but being trick plays, you can’t run them that often. So Tebow might get some quick glory, which I’m afraid the fans will misconstrue as actual football ability. They see him wing a 60 yard TD down field, and all of a sudden they’re thinking, we’ll gosh-dern, they should keep that kid in there all the time if he can do that!

Tebow isn’t a running back. He isn’t a quarterback. He’s a trick pony that you trot out a few times a game. I hope the fans and media can keep that in perspective.
- clarkgaines1979 says:
  
  +1
- __fense says:
  
  I guarantee that the media won’t, and 90% of fans inexplicably listen to the media.
Mark “The Adequate One” Sanchez formerly mataos says:

Sorry I didn’t read your article. Just wanted to say that the headline sums up TJB for the last 48 hours. Thought you were making a good observation, and then you wrote stuff…Uhhh theres like 300+ ppl doing the same thing. Guess we’ll find out opening day. By then y’all should be tired of the musings…Or not?
Gehoff says:

Jets have way too many holes to be trading draft picks for the sideshow that is Tim Tebow. I’m already sick of hearing the media talk about this guy and its only going to get worse. Hate this move.
- joeyboy79 says:
  
  Jets management has lost all credibility. They just want the back pages and freak shows. I cant wait for heads to roll!
thenycparkingexpert says:

eh, a lot of outrage and posturing and nothing bad has hapenned yet – if it ever does. If sanchez doesn’t play well enough to keep the job, I don’t care who the backup is. Stanton wouldn’t have been the answer. I say tebow takes pressure OFF of Mark, by improving the offense. If chez don’t like it, he should play well enough that we can’t afford to take him out of the game.
- Jets_Win says:
  
  +1
joeyboy79 says:

Awesome thread ! I laugh when those who think that lighting a fire under Sanchez will be accomplished by head games and taking away his supporting cast on offense like the jets management did in 2011, will do do the trick.They still havent upgaded the offense!!!! Thats what caused all the controversy in the first place- not building around your qb and giving the circus mentality as the higher priority. The jets should be ashamed of themselves!
- Tom in Raleigh says:
  
  Joey, you and I are in agreement again. I am still going to wait and see, but I feel that this is a disastrous move that could potentially rip the team apart…all while we don’t have a second safety, still have no word on the RT and have a few more moves to make before we get a divisive backup QB.
  - joeyboy79 says:
    
    Yeah Tom, I am really apprehensive now. It seems the jets are grasping at straws and it just got worse. I really feel if they would have concentrated on a second deep threat wr, a RT, and a compliment to Green, and then go heavy in the draft on the d side, we would have been moving in the right direction.
    
    This gimmick is worse than Favre! I really think it comes from Woody and his caring more about lining his own wallet than winning the big one.
    
    I have criticized T big time, but after seeing how upset he has looked , I really think its all coming down from woody.
    Woody better make his kill now because he will destroy a good qb in Sanchez and no way in heck can Tebow take this team anywhere close to a run. The pats made him look like a joke with a #29 ranked defense!
    
    Oh well, time to sit and see what happens, but I am not getting my hopes hope up anymore as I feel this organization has definitely taken the wrong path.
RDubbs says:

I guess I’m firmly in the minority but I think using Tebow about ten times a game in the right situations can be very productive. My initial reaction to the trade was that we gave up too much but considering the Jags were willing to give up a very similar package then maybe not. Still, I would have initially felt a lot better about the deal if it were for a 5th and 6th rather than a 4th and 6th. Spinning Stanton for a 6th certainly helps. But getting back to Tebow’s potential affect on the team. How many people thought that Brad Smith’s plays out of the wildcat were wasted? I know it pissed Sanchez off but so be it. I saw quite a few big plays out of the wildcat two years ago and I see no reason why Tebow can’t be more effective. Granted he is not an NFL caliber quarterback but he certainly can throw better than Smith or LT or Kerley and he is a load to take down. His failures in Denver derived from the fact that he is not an every down qb in the pros. But as a change-of-pace backup I think he brings a lot to the table; a lot for the defense to think about; from the straight dive to the option to the play action pass down field. Unfortunately the key will be if New York fans can realize Tebow’s potential while also keeping in mind his immense shortcomings. Sadly, if and when Sanchez stumbles a bit, which he probably will at some point in the season, then chanting for Tebow will be incredibly counter-productive. Regardless of his shortcomings, Sanchez is on a whole different level as an NFL quarterback than Tebow and always will be. Starting Tebow would be a disaster. He’s not starting material. If New York fans will embrace Tebow’s successes on the field without calling for Sanchez’s head then I think this will work well. But granted that is a big if …
knickavelli says:

You don’t get the move who do you want as your back up stanton or Tebow ????
- Tom in Raleigh says:
  
  Stanton. Obviously.
  
  Anyone with football sense gets this move.
  - thenycparkingexpert says:
    
    Stanton as qbs equals losing season. We haven’t lost a thing with this move.
Anthony says:

I agree with the both of u guys I think after Landry signed we should of went right after Eric Winston or gallery or any good tackle it just does not make sense and if mark is that hurt then he needs to get out of the game now it is in black and white and color the starting spot is arms job move on already spend the last lil bit of money u have left get a Right tackle or a wr or a other safety oj atogwe and draft a pass rusher 1st pick then draft athat safety from bosie state now that is smart front office work and draft depth after that the trade deal ie done and not goin to change so that’s it move on people
knickavelli says:

Stop talking bout what he can’t do talk about what he can do and that’s win I bet he shut ppl up when he beat the steelers he beat our jets I don’t here ppl crying bout bum ass Eric smith
- Tom in Raleigh says:
  
  Hahaha. Omg. That is rich. You are definately the Comice relief.
  
  Here’s what he can do: Pass the ball more poorly than any starting QB I have ever seen.
  
  Is that what ou were thinking?
- __fense says:
  
  The steelers were missing 5 of their starters on defense and their QB could barely stand. And they were still able to take it into overtime. The Jets were at a severe disadvantage too, with the short week, the long travel, and the thin air, and that was a close game too.
  
  You don’t hear people crying about bum ass Eric Smith? All of the people talking about how we have a need at safety? That’s because the alternative is Eric Smith.
  - Chris says:
    
    He threw for 316 yards
    
    In the playoffs
    
    Against the Steelers
    
    Hes never going to br Peyton but he’s a weapon and something else Belichik will have to spend time on. Winning will unite Jet Nation
knickavelli says:

Our needs will be handled on draft day period …
- joeyboy79 says:
  
  Right , rookies can come right in and turn a dysfunctional offense around on day one. Wow, this is getting scary.
  - Tom in Raleigh says:
    
    Yeah man. That is as ridiculous as some of the stuff you have posted. (Sorry couldn’t resist…haha)
joeyboy79 says:

Some of these comments are amazing,smh.
Super T says:

How is the Tebow wildcat offense going to be used to try and catch the defense off guard, when the Jets will most likely have to make substitutions and bring Tebow in the game?

Would think if I’m on defense against the Jets and I see Tebow enter the game that might be somewhat of a clue.
Tuco G says:

The quality of the stories running on this site is in serious decline.

“why they would be willing to trade away two draft picks …”

You seriously have the stones to allow this statement to run without mentioning the pick we got in return?

All I can say is, thank God for Bent.
Kyle13 says:

First I’d like to point out that not all Sanchez supporters are necessarily opposed to the Tebow trade. I for one still think Sanchez can be and should be our franchise QB. That being said, I think Sanchez would be a better QB with a better right tackle and an O-line that clicks great together. Getting help at right tackle should only help Sanchez become a better QB. As for Tebow, I was just baffled when I first heard the news. But even being a Sanchez supporter, I don’t necessarily hate the Tebow deal. I loved watching Brad Smith when he was here, so if Tebow is essentially the Brad Smith replacement I’m OK with that. However, I’m staying neutral about my feelings on the Tebow deal until we actually see how it plays out on the field. Everybody can make their opinions about whether they think it will work out or not, but none of that matters until Week 1 when Sanchez and Tebow are playing together. That’s when we’ll know for sure if this was a good trade or not.
- JetsImpact414 says:
  
  I agree. I too am a Sanchez supporter and I’m not necaccarily apposed to the trade. I just wish that everybody would just stop ignoring the facts about what has gone on during the Sanchez era. I hate how evreybody say’s, that if he was really a good QB, he would be able to overcome the O-Line and Santonio Holmes.
Nickballs2000 says:

All i know is that im sick of going around in circles and saying, reading the same damn BS. Can we talk about the draft or kate upton’s sweet cans
CWPOST1993 says:

Tomorrow’s headline ” Sanchez traded to Cleveland for multiple 1st rd draft picks “
- Nickballs2000 says:
  
  If we can trade Sanchez for multiple first rounders, then id do that deal right now. Id even drive him to Cleveland
  - Pete B. says:
    
    Id drive him to Alaska. I would love it if that happened
  - joeyboy79 says:
    
    How about I drive you to Siberia, lol
    - 52 Year Jet Fan says:
      
      How about we fire Rex Mr.T and hire Rich Kotite.
    - Pete B. says:
      
      haha, you guys do know that no matter how much i hate sanchez i will be cheering him on to do well as much as anyone. All i want is for the Jets to win.
- Bent says:
  
  That would put the Jets over the cap. Sanchez got an $8m signing bonus that would all be accelerated to count against this year’s cap.
kane says:

I find it amazing how much Sanchez is scrutinized for his play when he does not have the sporting cast to help him become a good QB. Do you realize that besides keller, Sanchez has not have the same WR to throw to the 3 years he has been here. Then the Jets replace a very good ET in Woody for a career backup in Hunter. Then your pro bowl LT forgets how to pass block and your blocking TE is a drive killing penalty machine. So let’s keep questioning if the QB is any good when everyone around him can not do their jobs or have no continuity (WR’s) with their QB because they just got here 2 weeks ago (Burrass, Mason). When the Jets decide to build a team that will be here for more than 2 years and stop all these quick 1 year fixes maybe that is when Sanchez will win a super bowl.
- joeyboy79 says:
  
  Kane, best post of the night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Kyle13 says:
  
  My thoughts exactly.
CWPOST1993 says:

Requirements for being a Jets Fan — Have a few screws loose ! We need to relax — The surprise is yet to come !! We’re trading all our late Draft picks to move up !

Lol !
- joeyboy79 says:
  
  My screws are the loosest!
knickavelli says:

Like the old saying can’t knock it till you try it …
Bent says:

Some possible good news. Andrew Brandt today suggested that the $2.5m does not affect the cap and also Jason reports that the NFL and NFLPA have confimed Tebow’s salaries for 2013 and 2014 are $2.3m and $2.6m, not the previously reported $6m and $7m.

If that’s all correct, they potentially have Tebow on board for $6m over three years and no dead money to cut or trade him.
- joeyboy79 says:
  
  Good lets trade him now!lol
  - Bent says:
    
    You joke, but if he has even a half decent season, they’ll get more than a 4th for him down the line.
- moyvore says:
  
  $6.5m over three years if you add Stanton’s half-million dollar signing bonus. No?
  
  I haven’t heard that the Jets are getting this money back from Indianapolis.
  
  Is half a mil cap hit by itself worth trading a 7 for a (possibly conditional) 6?
  
  But then one can subtract the $750 thousand Stanton was due for 2012, reducing the cap hit to $5.75 mil.
  
  BTW, I wonder what Tebow might do as a H-Back, after taking a toss in the backfield from Sanchez under center…
Antwan says:

My thought- if Sanchez can’t deal with this situation, he is obviously not the guy for the job.
- Kyle13 says:
  
  Exactly. This is already his 4th year in the league…
AABrooklyn says:

I know you can’t throw out the media craziness and throngs of maniacal Tebow fans that weren’t previously Jets fans but if we could get back Brad Smith for a 4th round pick and a reduced salary I would do it. Smith is more of a threat to go the distance but Tebow is a better (albeit not much better) passer than Smith. Either way if Sparano and Ryan figure out how to use him effectively and Sanchez improves his play then this is a good move. Not the most likely scenario right now with all of the other teem needs but I still think it is an aggressive semi-low risk move that could pay off very well.
johnnyjetson says:

can’t wait until tebow is running over people and guys like joey, cmart, tom, will jump on the bang wagon and praise tanny for a job well done..you guys haven’t even let the kid play yet but yet all you do is bash the move. Ohh my God a 4th rd pick for tebow now we can’t draft for depth…just like powell last year right came in and lit the place on fire…sanchezs mental state must be fragile after this move, lets keep walking on egg shells and not offend sanchez….gimme a break if the dude doesn’t have the stones to stand up and fight for his job then why do we even need him? Let him go to cleveland or Minnesota and ride jnto the sunset as a career backup.
- Kyle13 says:
  
  All very valid points. There’s way too much criticism going on so far especially considering they haven’t even played a single game yet. Let’s see how it plays out on the field before we judge.
- kane says:
  
  I just want to know what happens to the offense if Sanchez is injured and is out for a few games. Do the Jets run the wild cat the whole game with Tebow?
Brooklyn Dude says:

The Jets drafted Bilal Powell last year in the fourth round.
Who will contribute more this year.
John Jay Indians says:

Has anyone noticed that this guy had 13 fumbles last year? That is ridiculous. I just saw that and thought it was a typo. 13 fumbles is absurd. I don’t care how dangerous of a runner he is… You gots to hold on to da rock!
- johnnyjetson says:
  
  how many did sanchez have last year? Who had more turnovers last year sanchez or tebow?
DR24 says:

I agree that we definitely could have used those picks to address bigger needs like RT, FS, or a pass rushing OLB.

I don’t think Tebow is the ideal wildcat QB. The wildcat formation utilizes the single wing alignment with one side overloaded. The best “QB” threat in that situation is someone with sideline-to-sideline quickness, not the brute run you over power running that Tebow has. The threat to throw also helps keep the defense honest, which he will theoretically do better than our other previous wildcat operators, but his throwing techniques still are not that polished. That being said, I didn’t watch Brad Smith enough in college to really say who is/was a better passer.

Also, *holes.
- Bent says:
  
  I watched Brad Smith a lot in college. Tebow threw better than he did – that doesn’t mean he threw it to an NFL standard, but it was better than Brad. Tebow’s not very accurate, but Smith, in addition to being inaccurate, floats the ball and has a painfully slow release.
GANGGREEN says:

The reason Tebow is here comes down to money.Tebow will put fans in the seats,create media hype every week,and give the Jets a player that most NFL fans will root for.Tebow can make big plays and help on third and short yardage/goal line.Also after all the bad publicity about the Jets locker room Tebow is one of those squeeky clean kids that can clean up this bad publicity.I think Tebow is a born winner,a player with great upside,and has character to lift the dark cloud that the media has put on this Jets team lately.I know there are more glaring concerns for position players on this team but media wise this was a great move to Tanny and Rex to clear up the negatively that has been surrounding the Jets lately.
jon R says:

Hey, Jetsblog. Can you do me a favor? have other jets post that dont deal with our back up qb. your contributing to tebowmania. Thank you.
Longshot says:

Many have said that if Sanchez can’t take this, he’s not a real NFL QB or not the kind of guy we want. These are convenient refrains, but they ignore reality.

Both QBs at this point are here for the season. Tebow can’t run just wildcats or you’re obviously giving the D too much info. So Tebow has to hand off the ball, run the ball and pass in order to keep the D guessing. When Sanchez sees this happening where will his head really be at and what will happen to the 2012 season?

The Tebow move may give the Jets a net plus as far as alternative plays, but a greater net negative as far as effect on the team and key players. This could be a tough one to manage.
- Bent says:
  
  The wildcat is not really what Tebow ran last year in Denver. It was a spread option, which is more versatile.
  - Longshot says:
    
    Still not sure managing a 2 QB approach is what the Jets need to spend their time on.
JetSyd says:

I am with Dubbs and Sack – i think 10 plays a game and Tebow can be a seriously dangerous component of the offence. I still Sanchez can be the man but see this as a good team offence.

I don’t want to sound like a ccolaid sucker – but I do expect Braylon to be back.

i also have more faith in Sparano view of our oline than the fans…
Brooklyn Dude says:

Last year the fourth round produced more no name players than I can remember. The biggest name I recognized was Casey Matthews, not exactly his brothers equal.
A bunch of mediocre players at best in the fourth round.

That’s what the Jets gave up for Tebow.
I just don’t see how that is such a big risk.
andres reyes says:

ive get rid of tebow before sanchez
F 16 says:

The Jets have run the wildcat in the past, it’s not like their going to have to set aside several weeks to learn it. That said, Tebow is a one trick pony. What he brings to the table does not make up for what he’s lacking. Too top it off, you promote him to the second QB? The guy has heart but the con’s outweigh the pro’s.

Aside from that, leading up to grabbing Tebow the Jet’s did nothing with FA picks. That what make’s grabbing Tebow seem all the more foolish. As a rabid and sarcastic Jet fan I’ve got to hope Tanny will pull a rabbit out of his butt, but, IMO, this team, right now, is slightly worse then the team we fielded last year.
kane says:

Bent , do you know how many draft positions the jets moved up from the 7th to the 6th from today’s trade with the colts .
F 16 says:

P.S. As far as Sanchaz’s feeling… screw his feeling. I don’t care if he cries in his milk every morning as long as he is determined to learn how to command the field. If it takes him looking over his shoulder at Tebow, to turn him into a Pro QB, then the Tebow pick was worth it even if Tebow never takes a snap.
Andrew says:

Also the wildcat is less effective when your starting QB is not in the huddle. Also Tebow never ran the wildcat, he runs the read option out of the spread.

Also this idea that it’s “two offenses” is nonsense. If the typical offense has 100 plays, it would be broke down into “pass plays” and “run plays”, and all the derivatives. In NE the playbook has more shotgun, TE screens, and little play action. But its 100 plays.

Our offense would also have 100 plays, and included in the 100 would be broken down “pass plays” “run plays” “wildcat/option plays”. These are professionals, and the option is extremely easy to teach. They aren’t going to be combining two play books. They will formulate one playbook with the majority in pro style, and a few option sprinkled in.
Nick says:

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/230558/report-panthers-are-open-to-trading-stewart
Tebow????? says:

Heres what I see, we now have a backup QB who will be unable to run the offense the 1st team will be working on all preseason and during the week. Brad Smith and kerly in the wildcat were spot players, if Sanchez had gone down Brunel would have run the offense the team was built for. Are they going to be giving valuable practice time to having the offensive 1st unit working on “Tebow’s Offense”? That can’t help, the blocking, routes, timiing is all different.

We don’t have the RB’s that the Bronco’s had , which will allow teams to focus more on Teblow, and they’ve had a whole year to do it.

This whole thing doesn’t look like it was terribly thought out beyond “hey it will generate ticket sales and gimmick plays”. But what do I know, I’m just a guy who spends a sizable chunk of his income on this team, probably a greater % than Woody spends.
- SackDance99 says:
  
  The Jets RBs are better than Denver’s, the Jets’ OL is better, and Sparano knows how to integrate the Wildcat, which works best with just minor adjustments to the base offense. If Tebow were forced to start, it’s likely that Sparano would have the Jets better prepared for that than almost any other team.
CWPOST1993 says:

Stewart !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygCFW8DQWIo

Does he fit ? What would it cost ?
AABrooklyn says:

I’d really like to see a formation with Sanchez at QB and Tebow in the backfield with Greene and/or McKnight, Kerley in the slot. There could be all kinds of different misdirections and options. A lateral or backward pass to Tebow, then he looks downfield or takes off. Maybe a reverse and option. All kinds of possibilities and something that Sparano seems could innovate. I honestly think the Jets plan to use both Sanchez and Tebow on the field at the same time which could either fail horribly or be insanely creative and successful.
- Johnny Reefer says:
  
  well i will surely confuse the hell out of the D that is for sure.
  - Johnny Reefer says:
    
    it*
  - JayM says:
    
    It would probably confuse the hell out of the offense too LOL
CWPOST1993 says:

AABklyn — I like that vision !
JetsImpact414 says:

Very good and and well written article, keep it up!! First off, all you guys are talking about is that Sanchez will struggle all year, what if he come’s out the first game of the season with his pants on fire and prove’s everybody wrong?
SackDance99 says:

A few comments. First, how does getting Tebow prevent the Jets from getting any position of perceived need? Why do folks make it sound like upgrading RT is the hardest thing to do in football? Why can’t the Jets address RT in the draft or structurally by using a blocking TE? Second, the shortcomings of RT caused the bulk of Jet woes? Oh, please! Take a look at Sanchez’s awful Pick 6 against the Broncos, perhaps the most pivotal play of the season. Hunter pushes the pass rusher completely out of the frame, Sanchez had all day and inexplicably throws inside and low to a 6-5 WR. Just one of many mental errors by Sanchez that had nothing to do with he OL. How about Mulligan’s penalties and missed blocks? How about Schotty’s perplexing tendency to abandon the run just as its effectiveness was creating problems for the defense? And, how about Sanchez’s holding the ball too long, misreading defenses and losing respect in the locker room? The idea that a QB controversy is always bad is even one of those claims that sounds great, but isn’t borne out by the facts. Last year, the Broncos had a QB controversy, Orton being replaced saved their season. Remember Drew Bledsoe getting injured and losing his starting position to some guy named Brady? How about 2002 with Vinny benched for Chad? QB controversies occur when a starter is injured or struggles and the back up plays better than the starter. Sanchez was an integral part of the offense’s woes last season. Most fans agreed that he didn’t deserve a free ride and needed to be pushed. Tebow will push him not because of his fans, but because he works incredibly hard, is a great teammate and has a different skill set. Plus, he has a history of winning despite his flaws. Sanchez is the more talented QB. But, he has to raise his level of play. At this point, I don’t care who the QB is, I just want wins. Tebow makes the Jets stronger at the back up QB position and brings dynamism to the running game. The offense has been improved and the Jets still have a half dozen draft picks to fill out any other areas of need. In an offense that wasn’t tailored for his skills, Tebow led the Broncos to one of the most improbable playoff runs in NFL history and he overachieved. Sanchez led the Jets to a disappointing season, despite marginal improvements in his stats, and underachieved. I hate to do this, but I’ll quote Proverbs 27:17 again: As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. Does anyone whose a Jets fan really dispute that Sanchez needs sharpening? As for Tebowmania and the distractions? Last I heard that claim, the Jets were on “Hard Knocks”, their best player was holding out, their best WR was suspended for the first 4 games and their best defensive lineman suffered a season-ending injury. Those distractions led to a 11-5 record and a 2nd consecutive AFC Championship Game appearance. The “controversy” claims are way overblown.
nolan says:

Sanchez needs to step up, true, but like it was mentioned earlier in the posts he has not had any help as far as his receivers go over the years. He has had to deal with new receivers every year, and last year he didnt even have a pre season to get any kind of connection with plax. Not to mention the o-line failed him. This year he has new receivers every again, a new offense to learn, and as of right now the same problems in the oline. As for tebow, im not too worried about it, as far as a backup goes hes pretty decent option. All this it will rip the team apart needs to stop, because as far as we know, nothing has truely changed since last year, and if things do go wrong it doesnt necessarily mean it was due to the addition of tebow. Dont get me wrong, im not a tebow supporter, but hes probably better than stanton. I grow weary of the amount of press surrounding this move, he’s the backup, hes the backup, hes the backup, hes the backup, hes the backup. And one more time, hes the goddamned backup, or i should say the godpraised backup. If sanchez ends up not being the answer, then we had no hope of a superbowl anyway, but the guy is our starter and we will all be watching him anyway. We do however need to address at least one more position in the FA, most likely WR, hopefully OT as well. All that being said im still very excited about the draft, which i think will be our best in the past few years, and im excited about the upcoming season. I feel we really have only made upgrades to the team so far with more to come, and with where we ended up last year, it to feels like like we are back in the playoffs. Enjoy the offseason, wait til the jets get wiped before you flush them, otherwise you’ll just be choking on your own pessimism.
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- SackDance99 says:
  
  Sanchez will have Tone, Kerley, Keller and Turner back and, if Braylon shows he’s healthy, he’ll be intimately familiar with all of his receivers, except for Schilens. The OL failed Sanchez as much as Sanchez failed the OL. I gave Sanchez a pass because Schotty sucked. I’m just tired of excuses. Many QBs in the NFL have succeeded with far less. It’s time for Sanchez to perform better. And, if he doesn’t, Tebow can run he spread option and the Jets can try to run and play defense into a playoff run. If the Jets make the playoffs anything can happen. But, the Jets’ best chance for a long run is Sanchez meeting the challenge. And, I think he will. But, just claiming that Tebow will be a distraction and hurt Sanchez is, if anything, very disrespectful to Sanchez and rank speculation.
- Jets_Win says:
  
  Nice.
Jetsonly says:

When the Beatles came to America everyone was saying “what a gimmick”. Even Paul said that in their first interview here. “Everyone thinks we’re a gimmick with the hair and all, but we dont think we’re a gimmick”. Then people saw them on the Ed Sullivan show and you never heard “gimmick” again. This Tebow is a great athlete, not a gimmick and if he’s used properly, just like with the Beatles, people will shut up fast when they see what he can do for the Jets. This guy has real belief in himself and I pray his attitude is contagious. That’s optimism, but what’s wrong with that?
gt73 says:

There is way too much drama going on over this move. If the Jets had traded a 4th round pick to bring Brad Smith back no one would be thinking twice about it. We needed someone to fill that role and Tebow may be the best person ever to do it (ok, he doesn’t return kickoffs like Smith, but everything else he does better). There is plenty of time to fill the other needs through the draft, free agency, waiver wire pickups and trades. Relax and celebrate this for what it is — a shot at having something really incredible happen with no real risk.
Clean Sanchez says:

They really only gave up one pick. The other one was just downgraded one round, not given up entirely.
- SackDance99 says:
  
  And, I think the Jets’ bench is better than is being portrayed, so there could be quality replacements already on the roster.
Big Ant says:

This is trade makes no sense. This was driven by Our great owner woody johnson who rather have the back pages then win. I’m for sure want a chip and it will not happening with a two quarterback system.
Big Ant says:

Tanny instead should have built our defense up and shore up our right tackle mess.
GHOST who walks says:

Any Jet fans here honestly believe Drew Stanton is a better backup QB than Tim Tebow?

Why are everyone assuming Tebow will take Sanchez’s starting job? Isn’t there some chance that Tim Tebow is here to be a) the backup QB b) the wildcat QB c) in tandem with Shonn Greene at RB d) the other TE in 2 TE sets? Those responsibilities combined will make him almost a starter to pacify his legions of fans. Why hate on Tebow? He is now one of us.
- Chris says:
  
  Yessir!
  Nothing we can do about it now. He’s wearing the green and white.
  
  Besides this coukd have a huge upside. Id much rather woody spend money than have salary cap go untouched. NO SENSE GOIN DOWN WITH BULLETS IN THE CHAMBER!!!
GHOST who walks says:

PS

The way I saw him hit people last year, he could even take over Bart Scott’s job. He certainly tackles much better than Cromartie.
Monty says:

Hahah you guys are still going at it pathetic. Don’t
Let the whining losers goad you. Some people will be miserable their whole lives…just hope they don’t have children;) ..
There’s no common. Sense or fandom…it’s three maybe four whiners talking ( and changing user names) and the rest of us defending our position and trying to get them to feel better ..either their troll fans of other teams…or clinically depressed and borderline dangerous. Either way you might as well try and stop a dog from licking his own balls you’re not going to convince any of them ..done here..go jets!
joeyboy79 says:

Let the competition for starter begin! http://web.sny.tv/media/video.jsp?content_id=20256107

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