Ryan Spending More Time With His Defense

May 14th, 2012

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Will Rex be spending more time with his defense this season? Sounds like it according to Darrelle Revis and David Harris who say that they’ve already seen an upswing in the amount of time that Ryan spends around the unit so far this spring according to the Post.

Ryan has said he wants to be more involved with the defense this season, and cornerback Darrelle Revis and inside linebacker David Harris said Monday that it’s noticeable already.

Revis said Ryan was less of a presence with the defense last season than in his first two years as Jets coach.

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“He’s been in our defensive meetings a little bit more so far,” Harris said. “It’s still the offseason but in our installs the last two weeks he’s been more hands on coaching little points here and there and asking guys if they understand it, younger guys. I think it’s going to be a plus for us.”

There were a few reasons why Ryan spent less time on the defense last year than he had in years past. First and probably least importantly, Ryan had made it clear he wanted Pettine to own the defense more this past year. It would make sense that if he didn’t want to be breathing down Pettine’s neck, but as I recall he ended up getting more involved with playcalling towards the end of the season anyway – even if he was around the defense less … which is sort of odd.

Ryan also made it known going into 2011 that he wanted to spread his time around the team more last season, which he did. Of course, he spent more time managing his Offensive Coordinator who he was not on the same page with, so it would make sense that he went where he felt like he was needed more. Either way, the team was more successful when Rex was more involved with the defense, so maybe he sees it as a “if it ain’t broke” situation, coupled an OC whom he feels like he has more closely tied offensive ideals … which lets him be more inolved in defense.

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juunit says:

If you want something done right, do it yourself. Rex is learning as he goes. That’s fine, since so far I think he’s been very quick to correct any mistakes he’s made as a head coach.
JDB says:

Rex has made many mistakes as a head coach. Rarely has he made the same mistake twice. A very good sign.

Rex will win a Super Bowl or two with the Jets. It might just take a little longer than we all expected.
- jon in bk says:
  
  +1. If anything makes me hopeful about this team, it’s still Rex.
  
  As you admit, he’s made many mistakes, but he has always tried to address them, he’s come across as an honest guy, and he knows his defense.
reality jet fan says:

Wow maybe we should give a cookie!
a57se says:

I wish he would spend more time with the offense and learn more about the offense. He has a unique ability to see the whole field and if he knew more about offenses and could couple that info with his defensive acumen, he could be very special as a HC.
Wolf says:

It really bothers me that in 2011 we moved away from
what had worked for us in 2009-2010.

I cannot stress how important a ‘when it isn’t broke don’t fix’ mentality is. It seems like they tried to ‘fix’ certain things that had been working for the team, things that had gotten us to the AFC Championship game two years in a row.

It is inexcusable and if it isn’t righted this year Rex should be fired. Don’t deviate from what makes you successful. But that’s exactly what the Jets did in 2011.
- Olerud_4_LIfe says:
  
  Gotta blame that on the FO as well. I understand the get rid of aging players before its too late. But to lose woody (who couldve played for a few more seasons at a high level and taught the younger players-he never really wanted to retire) and braylon because of money reasons and not sound aging reasons was a big factor.
  
  Braylon had the tenth highest ypa in the league, meaning he was a downfield threat. Opened up lanes for holmes underneath as well as cotchery. And if you left braylon on an island, he either burned the corners or jump balled/muscled them (colts playoff game catch to get us in field goal range, lions game, dolphins game where he caught and burned the corner trying to make a turn and tackle, list goes on).
  
  Tanny stripped the team of parts that went into us winning game in prior years, and lets not forget, braylon did a great job before holmes was here and held us down, even without holmes as a threat on the field.
  
  Everyone seems to forget that sancehz didnt have a deep threat, no RT, a shaky OC and only two receivers. Its not hard to make qb look bad with only those options. Yet Matty Ice and Flacco get passes with way better teams and less impressive results (excluding flaccos last passes to houzamenzadah 2 years ago and the pass to lee evans last year…flacco actually played extremely well against the pats last year, but his year was worst than sanchez given the team he had)
  - a57se says:
    
    C’mon guys, Damien Woody was done. If he had anything left in the tank, he would’ve played for someone last year. Braylon wanted MORE money than Holmes and there was no way the Jets could get both of them back. With the way Braylons’ season went, I’d say the Jets made the right move.
    - joeyboy79 says:
      
      Thats the key though with the winning organaztions, you obviously plan that players will eventually be done but have solid replacements and thats where the jets are stumbling and seperates the winners from the mediocre.Excuses are not SOP for the top teams!
      - JDB says:
        
        And they would have been geniuses if their plan had worked last season.
        
        They tried something, it didn’t work.
        
        Give it a rest
Wolf says:

That said, I get the sense that this offensive “evolution” was entirely Schottenheimer.

I expect the offense to greatly improve as a direct result of Schott’s departure.
- joeyboy79 says:
  
  You still need the pieces bro. You claim you dont want to deviate from what made us successful in 2010 but they downgaded the offense in 2011 and still have done nothing to benefit our primary qb from those downgrades. If you want to believe that shottys departure is the magic bullet, fine, but there are many other issues. Shotty was one step away from a SB appearance if the d didnt drop the ball. Its too easy to say with shotty gone gone we are on our way without correcting the major and underlying issues in personnel. I love the illusion that getting rid of a coach will make up up for all the talent deficiencies. Its nice and gives hope but will not cut it. Sparano will be in the same shape that he was in Miami without the right pieces to support his offense.
  - Matt says:
    
    What piece? RT that’s it really
    - joeyboy79 says:
      
      Rt, a veteran #2 deep threat , and oline depth. We also need a compliment for Green.
      - a57se says:
        
        Wehave o’line depth, a #2 WR deep threat and a complement for greene. If Hunter plays better or Vlad is ready, the RT position will be better as well. So all your ‘key pieces’ are in house, they just need to perform.
        
        joeyboy79 says:
        
        We have oline depth? Did you see hunter play last season and Vlad is still learning to tie his shoe, come on man! We have a solid veteran deep threat #2 wr? OK.
        
        joeyboy79 says:
        
        Who is the proven everydown back for Green if Green goes down?
        
        JDB says:
        
        There is no such thing in the NFL anymore. Its all running back by committee.
        
        joeyboy79 says:
        
        But wheres the committee, lol?
        
        Marcus says:
        
        Ganaway, Bilal, and McKnight.
        
        a57se says:
        
        Joey, one step at a time here:
        
        “We have oline depth? Did you see hunter play last season and Vlad is still learning to tie his shoe, come on man!”
        
        Hunter was not as bad as you make him out to be and neither is Vlad. Howard may surprise as well. We have depth at center and guard as well. There are NO FA tackles who are better out there plus we have 3 pro bowlers on the line as well.
        Plus I said I believe Hunter will play better and Vlad might even be ready this year with a power blocking scheme vs. the zone blocking of the last few years.
        
        “We have a solid veteran deep threat #2 wr? OK.”
        
        You keep saying a ‘solid veteran deep threat’. Why does the #2 WR have to be a veteran? There are none out there in FA that I like. I think Hill will provide the deep threat this team has lacked since Wesley Walker plus the kid can block as well. Schilens and Ganaway (the WR) provide depth and all have 4.3 speed. There is no reason to bring in a veteran here….
        
        “Who is the proven everydown back for Green if Green goes down?”
        
        This is not what you listed origianally. You said we had NO COMPLEMENTARY back. We have Mcknight who IS the complementary back.
        Name me 5 teams that have ‘proven everydown backs’ sitting on the bench in case their starter goes down? That’s just ridiculous. Ganaway is basically a Shon Greene clone with better hands so he is your back-up.
        
        Joey, this isn’t baseball where you can pay someone 10 million a year to be a part time player like the Yankees do….you really gotta change your thinking in this area.
      - Matt says:
        
        A veteran WR isn’t the answer the Jets had that last year how did it work they drafted two WRs with great upside and good attitudes plus Hill if anything will stretch the field. Ganaway and Mcknight and Powell. As far as RT all teams have a weak link hopefully the guys that are on the team step up and at least give a great effort.
  - Kyle says:
    
    The talent is there. The ability to utilize that talent was not. Time and time again you’d see schotty running plays that had no business in the game plan because of the personnel involved. 2009-2010 showed what could happen with the play calling tailored to the players. Granted in 2011 the OL was banged up and they only had 1 legit WR, but the playcalling was attrocious. In the Giants game, when you’re gaining 6 yd/rush, keep running!!! The game plans most of the time last year were baffling.
    - joeyboy79 says:
      
      Ok, faith that a coaching change will solve all our deficiencies, even when shottys offense was one step away from the sb if the d didnt dig us in a hole. When the offense was downgraded thats when we faltered, not the coahing the downgraded personnel. I hope you are right that Shotty being gone is the magic bullet, but I find that very hard to believe. If a coach had that kind of an impact, Sparano would still be in Miami.
      - Kyle says:
        
        I don’t think it’s a magic bullet. I think a change in philosophy will work well for the personnel we have. I don’t believe it’s always about talent. Most of the time Belicheat fields a bunch of scrubs (with the exception of Brady and Gronkowski right now) but he puts those scrubs in a position to make plays. Greene got 1000 yds in spite of the OL. Running is the strength of this team. I like Sanchez but he’s not good enough nor do they have the WR’s to be an air it out offense. Should they get better WR’s? Absolutely! But you gotta work with what you have and schotty didn’t do that.
  - georgeJETSon says:
    
    I love the illusion that this team didnt have enough talent to get into the playoffs and make a run. Was it the talent that called 27 first half passes even though we had the leave and were getting it done on the ground? You know what, it was Chris Angel playing tricks on my eyes and my TV set!
    The reason the OC change has merit is because Schotty has had Chad and Favre, both were good before and directly after him. Their ints went up with him and down directly after. Did changing coaches every work with the same players? Yes and in every sport. It doesn’t make up for lack of talent, but there are times when scheme and coaching philosophy dont match talent, or players stop responding to coaches. a team at 8-5 has talent. Number one in red zone scoring shows talent. the difference from us making it into the playoffs and not was a couple of plays in a couple of games. THAT doesnt happen without some talent. THAT can be held up to coaching mistakes. Thats not illusion thats fact.
    This team is looked at, and rightfully so, as having underachieved to get to 8-8. That means they had better than 8-8 talent. Can holes be fixed? Yes, but this team will be better if they just get them to play up to its potential and talent. That is what Coaches get payed for.
    - joeyboy79 says:
      
      A coach still needs the appropriate talent to work with.Just think if the jets had the hunters and eric smiths to work with. How far will they go even with good coaching? The coaches are not magicians. Yes they can maximize, but still need the pieces, or why then have a draft trying to get better talent if the coaches can do it all? Wishful thinking is done by organizations that cant obtain the key talent. It is like tyrying to get blood from a stone and the good coaches can get that blood, but only if it is there in the first place.
    - georgeJETSon says:
      
      Saying Shotty was one step away from the SB and that means he was good and not the problem is like saying Sanchez is elite or very good for the same rerason. Sanchez is middle of the road at best, he has potential and I am excited because if he does what he did in the playoffs he would be good. In all honesty he is middle of the road now. Well that goes double for Schotty. He has NEVER had a top ten Offense or pass Offense, NEVER. He is middle of the road and after 6 years of potential and no consistency is enough. If he called games like he did in the playoff runs maybe, but he didnt.
      - joeyboy79 says:
        
        Shotty was one step from a sb if the d didnt drop the ball. When the jets ,the next year downgraded the offense, Sanchez, shotty and the offense suffered. Shotty and Sanchez were ready to make the jump from 2010 until management dropped the ball in 2011. Now management wants to just say Sanchez regressed and got rid of Shotty for the scapegoat and want to rely on gimmicks, but they better realize that even scapegoats can be used up. This season is on the brain trust as they will live and die by it.
    - Bent says:
      
      Just a slight nitpick about those 27 passes in the first half. 10 of them came on the two minute drill (ended with a Folk FG miss) AFTER the Giants took the lead.
      
      17 first half passes would have been a reasonable number. It was the second half that was really senseless, although I still think it had something to do with a lack of confidence in Sanchez, because if every other pass is going to be a bad one, you’re not going to sustain many long drives if you run on first and second down, but you could (and they did) if you just throw nearly every time. That’s the only possibly justification and I acknowledge it’s a weak one.
joeyboy79 says:

I am not saying we are far away but those pieces are key!
- mike_francesser says:
  
  You said earlier in the off season that both the Bills and Dolphins were ahead of the Jets. Just sayin….
  - Bigfinkin says:
    
    Yeah and you said if you were Sanchez you would leave the team. Sounds like you think we don’t have much of a chance.
    - joeyboy79 says:
      
      If the jets dont support him I would leave. So far they have done zilch!
  - joeyboy79 says:
    
    Show me where I said that? I said the bills are improved from last year, and they are.
tish says:

As far as Ryan’s activities with the offense; who better to point out what a D can do to stop a certain play or what offensive plays scare the crap out of an offense?
juunit says:

Woah, just, woah. A few things based on some of these comments… In professional sports, if you do not adapt and just do the same thing that worked for you in previous years, you die. Give NFL coaches a whole year to watch tape, and they will find holes in your philosophies.

Also, we ARE relying on rookies to step into some roles they really have no business in (at the moment at least.) A RB who can be the pass blocker? Where is the wide receiver we know what we’ll get from other than Holmes? Kerley, as much as everyone loves him, had a minimal impact on pretty much every game last year. How about an offensive lineman who can step in for an injured player and not be completely overwhelmed? The fourth CB? A TE who can block?

Like I’ve said before, the team might still get proven veterans to put into those roles, so I’m not jumping ship yet. But, Griffin is not adequate OL depth, and neither is Howard or Schlauderaff. They could both be the type of player who are complete and utter failures at the NFL level (they could also be steals.) But we just don’t know yet. Same goes for our WRs, our backup CBs, etc. Relying on completely unknown quantities with no plan B, is in a word, stupid. This was proven last season when we were forced to put an unproven rookie on the offensive line. That experience is what we now blame for the Jets missing the playoffs last season. Smart to make the same mistake twice, in consecutive years, knowing the consequences? No, not at all.

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